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View Full Version : Joe Royle UEAwolf 03-07-2006, 14:52 Is for me the only realistic choice, and not a bad one either. Track record of promotion, getting the best out of players--exactly the type of manager we need. Its too early for Ince, we need an experienced head to create some stability and to take us forward. Markwolf 03-07-2006, 15:01 As mentioned earlier, didn't he leave Ispwich when he lost many of his more experienced players and had to rely on youth? Grinder 03-07-2006, 15:02 Its too early for Ince, we need an experienced head to create some stability and to take us forward.Gareth Southgate, Stuart Pearce, Andy Boothroyd, Keith Curle, all these have been given a chance and are doing a great job at the moment(apart from Southgate) who IMV will do a great job. EddieClamp-tops 03-07-2006, 15:04 A decent shout but, ideally, it would be better to have someone with some connection to Wolves, or at least the West Midlands. Otherwise if they have any success, surely they go to a club nearer to 'home' - in the case of Joe Royle the north west. In addition what is the chance of persuading Joe to leave East Anglia for the Black Country? - plenty of decent places to live I accept, but if he is settled near Ipswich, with family around Merseyside, we must seem like in the middle of nowhere! paddingtonwolf 03-07-2006, 15:04 firstly - it is Adrian Boothroyd not Andrew. Did very well, I admit. secondly - Man City under Pearce had a good run followed by a bad one. He is yet to convince. What exactly has Southgate done at Boro that classes as a great job? He hasn't had a competitive match yet. Curle? WTF? fenella 03-07-2006, 15:06 Gareth Southgate, Stuart Pearce, Andy Boothroyd, Keith Curle, all these have been given a chance and are doing a great job at the moment(apart from Southgate) who IMV will do a great job. Gareth Southgate hasn't started. Stuart Pearce is now doing rubbish after a nice honeymoon period, Keith Curle got sacked for bullying and I have no idea who Andy Boothroyd is. But I'd like to go for someone like Adrian Boothroyd - ie a highly qualified and experienced coach who is finally ready to step up from a number 2 to a number 1, rather than a novice. Nashie 03-07-2006, 15:06 Stuart Pearce was at Nottingham Forest first and didnt do very well, then he spent a significant amount of time as number 2 to Keegan. Adrian Boothroyd hasn't just come out of nowhere and has worked his way up from youth team management - http://www.ex-canaries.co.uk/players/boothroyd.htm Ince cannot take over straight away, he needs to earn his coaching badges and be a number 2 to a more experienced coach. Royle is the man for the job if he could be persuaded to take it. Grinder 03-07-2006, 15:08 firstly - it is Adrian Boothroyd not Andrew. Did very well, I admit. secondly - Man City under Pearce had a good run followed by a bad one. He is yet to convince. What exactly has Southgate done at Boro that classes as a great job? He hasn't had a competitive match yet. Curle? WTF?I never said Southgate has done a great job, I said IMV I think he will do a great job. EddieClamp-tops 03-07-2006, 15:10 Every choice is a gamble. Even the great Stan Cullis failed at Birmingham City, as did Brian Clough at Leeds. As far as young, inexperienced men are concerned, for every succes there is more than one failure, even if they have been international players - Billy Wright, Bobby Charlton, Peter Shilton spring immediately to mind. Let's hope the board just get on with it and avoid people who are out of work because they have been recent failures! paddingtonwolf 03-07-2006, 15:11 based on what exactly - see it in the tea leaves did we? Nashie 03-07-2006, 15:11 I never said Southgate has done a great job, I said IMV I think he will do a great job. What makes you think that? Just because a player is a 'name' it doesn't mean they will make a good manager. Look at Tony Adams performance at Wycombe. He is now going to learn the ropes as an assistant to Redknapp at Pompey. Grinder 03-07-2006, 15:11 Graham Taylor failed at Wolves but had success with Watford. Grinder 03-07-2006, 15:12 based on what exactly - see it in the tea leaves did we?Based on my voodoo spell! Grinder 03-07-2006, 15:13 What makes you think that? Just because a player is a 'name' it doesn't mean they will make a good manager. Look at Tony Adams performance at Wycombe. He is now going to learn the ropes as an assistant to Redknapp at Pompey.look at Paul simpson at Carlisle 2 successive promotions. fenella 03-07-2006, 15:19 based on what exactly - see it in the tea leaves did we? Based on his brilliant, insightful, and some would say genius, performances as a pundit during the World Cup Grinder 03-07-2006, 15:21 Based on his brilliant, insightful, and some would say genius, performances as a pundit during the World Cup:D :D Oldgold Wolfcub 03-07-2006, 15:39 [quote=EddieClamp-tops]Every choice is a gamble. Even the great Stan Cullis failed at Birmingham City, as did Brian Clough at Leeds. /quote] I'd love to know how you rate Brian Clough failing at leeds when he was not there long enough to fail or be successful. If he had have stayed he may have made the changes they needed at Leeds. Jack Bauer 03-07-2006, 15:54 As mentioned earlier, didn't he leave Ispwich when he lost many of his more experienced players and had to rely on youth? He lost his 3 leading scorers all in one go at the end of one season, a bit different to the situation Hoddle was facing. goldeneyed 03-07-2006, 17:42 AS mentioned on other threads a mixture of Royle and Ince could work. Perhaps Ince as assistant for a season or two then take over as manager. But this is far too sensible a solution for the Wolves board to contemplate. Curbishley and O'Neil would be best of all of course but the reality is likely to be Stuart Gray as caretaker manager for three or four months. Brilliant stuff again from the Wolves board. Dr Wolfenstein 03-07-2006, 18:11 [quote=EddieClamp-tops]Every choice is a gamble. Even the great Stan Cullis failed at Birmingham City, as did Brian Clough at Leeds. /quote] I'd love to know how you rate Brian Clough failing at leeds when he was not there long enough to fail or be successful. If he had have stayed he may have made the changes they needed at Leeds. In just 44 days he succeeded in winding up the Leeds senior pros (accusing them of winning their medals unfairly), but failed to keep the job (being sacked). However he succeeded in getting a big pay off. So all in all, Clough may have thought it was worth it, as he didn't like Leeds anyway. brummywolf 03-07-2006, 18:19 [quote=Oldgold Wolfcub] In just 44 days he succeeded in winding up the Leeds senior pros (accusing them of winning their medals unfairly), but failed to keep the job (being sacked). However he succeeded in getting a big pay off. So all in all, Clough may have thought it was worth it, as he didn't like Leeds anyway. To be fair, the Leeds squad was pretty close to Don Revie and there were a few prima donas in the squad. A lot of them were opposed to Taylor and Clough's appointment and as a consequence made his life very difficult there. Or so Clough says in his autobiography. wolfie smith 03-07-2006, 19:02 brian kidd never gets a mention, i know he failed at blackburn? but an excellent coach to youngsters, must be itching to get back into football. watching alan ball on the world cup the things he says he should be given a go, why did he get turned down by wolves as a player? Deutsch Wolf 03-07-2006, 19:09 watching alan ball on the world cup the things he says he should be given a go Jesus H Christ. He relegated EVERY club he managed apart from Southampton. Awful manager. brummywolf 03-07-2006, 19:11 Alan Ball...worst suggestion ever. |
