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Deutsch Wolf
03-07-2006, 11:24
Might be tabloid bull$$$$$, but it wouldn't surprise me if it were the truth.

http://www.worldcup365.com/story/0,16726,8501_1313249,00.html

brummywolf
03-07-2006, 11:26
Hopefully it will all blow over. The best way for him to get over it is to show he has matured as a player and a person- Beckham 1998 style. Ronaldo is a $$$$ but I'm sure there's plenty of other people who will be willing to deck him, so Roon should just get on with his career.

wolf of sedgley
03-07-2006, 11:27
Good. I hope he breaks the little brats nose, and something tells me Rooney is not the kind of guy you would want holding a grudge against you!

paddingtonwolf
03-07-2006, 11:39
if Ronaldo is dumb enough to stay in this country, it won't be Rooney that gets him as SAF won't allow it at Carrington.

In a pre-season friendly he will try and skip by a lower league player wanting to make a name for themselves as the new Chopper Harris and rampaging St George all rolled into one, and will get his legs done in.

Deutsch Wolf
03-07-2006, 11:42
This is officially the $$$$$iest interview ever.

http://football.guardian.co.uk/worldcup2006/story/0,,1811389,00.html

MK Panther
03-07-2006, 11:43
if Ronaldo is dumb enough to stay in this country, it won't be Rooney that gets him as SAF won't allow it at Carrington.

In a pre-season friendly he will try and skip by a lower league player wanting to make a name for themselves as the new Chopper Harris and rampaging St George all rolled into one, and will get his legs done in.

Nice, how about us scoring more goals in normal time and defeating the opposition. This sort of talk just fuels the 'thug' mentatlity Rooney harbours it gets us nowhere we should be making sure the next team we send out are virtually unbeatable.

paddingtonwolf
03-07-2006, 11:46
Nice, how about us scoring more goals in normal time and defeating the opposition. This sort of talk just fuels the 'thug' mentatlity Rooney harbours it gets us nowhere we should be making sure the next team we send out are virtually unbeatable.

don't think you need to get on your high horse so much there. I am merely pointing out a likely scenario should he stay. Some lower league player will see it as a way to make a name for themselves. I am not condoning the action no matter what a complete idiot I actually think the guy is.

Kenny-11
03-07-2006, 11:49
http://www.ihateronaldo.com

paddingtonwolf
03-07-2006, 11:51
This is officially the $$$$$iest interview ever.

http://football.guardian.co.uk/worldcup2006/story/0,,1811389,00.html

yup - what a total $$$$$. Fergie is almost forced to sell him after those quotes. Keep in the reserves Alex, and let him rot.

Mr Wolf
03-07-2006, 11:57
It wasn't Ronaldo's fault at all, I think Rooney should concentrate on scoring goals rather than beating people up.

I think this World Cup found a few players out.

saturday boy
03-07-2006, 11:59
Rooney deserved to be sent off. Nobody's fault but his own I'm afraid.

Deutsch Wolf
03-07-2006, 12:00
Rooney deserved to be sent off. Nobody's fault but his own I'm afraid.

I disagree with that, but it's not the point anyway. Ronaldo is a cheating $$$$$, his behaviour on Saturday was despicable.

glasgowwolf
03-07-2006, 12:01
Ronaldo deserves everything he gets IF he come Back.

Thug Mentality maybe
a dislike of cheats definately.
I have played against Mates and would never ever have done anything like that.

How many times did the Portugese dive and was told by the ref they dived yet not once did an English player put pressure on the ref to card him.

We were not good enough that was a fact we did not play well that is a fact.

Even though we deserved to go home due to our performance, it was obvious Portugal did not think they could beat us 11 on 11 that is a fact

markb
03-07-2006, 12:02
It was entirely predictable that Rooney would get into trouble at the WC, so whether Ronaldo did contribute or not is irrelevant. I would expect any professional, especially one forewarned, not to rise to provocation, yet here we see Rooney behaving like a petulant teenager. If he can't control himself for 90 minutes then he's a liability. He might be able to get away with such boorish behaviour in the premiership with its close ties to Sky, but he carries little or no clout on the international arena.

Florida Wolfey
03-07-2006, 12:02
http://www.ihateronaldo.com

Interesting web site and I can now understand why a lot of you are upset with Ronaldo. Naturally quite a bit of this is just press hysteria but it still doesn't change the fact that Rooney did take the opportunity to put the boot in and then give it a little twist.

Only two people will know what their intentions were a) Rooney and b) the referee. As for Ronaldo, it's really a side issue. Did he get Rooney sent off or not? Personally, I don't think so but his role in all of this does him no credit that's agreed.

Pour scorn and hatred on him if you must but it will achieve little. Rooney has to learn from this like Beckham did. Thing is, does he really have the brain power to do so?

Deutsch Wolf
03-07-2006, 12:03
What exactly was "boorish" about his behaviour? The "stamp" was unintentional and the ref was not going to take any further action. The "push" was hardly worthy of the description, let alone a red card.

paddingtonwolf
03-07-2006, 12:04
Rooney deserved to be sent off. Nobody's fault but his own I'm afraid.

I will agree that Rooney needs to do a lot of looking at himself. If the stamp was deliberate, it was a diabolical thing to do and definitely worthy of a red. If it wasn't and he was dismissed for the push, then he has been very stupid and let himself, his team-mates and his country down.

HOWEVER, the actions of Cristiano Ronaldo at the start of the match (deliberately winding him up), during the incident (sly headbutt, demanding a red card, falling as if shot), immediately afterward (sly "job done" wink), and since in the press (slag Rooney, England, the club paying his wages and the country he lives in whilst pushing for a move) are all scandalous.

Munich_Wolf
03-07-2006, 12:08
I've watched that replay a few times and regardless of what the ref said I think he gave the red for the push.

I don't think the kick in the nuts was deliberate either, he has his eyes on the ball the whole time and had to put his leg down somewhere or fall over

paddingtonwolf
03-07-2006, 12:09
its the way he twists his foot after he registers that it doesn't feel like turf but more like ball bag that is a little damning.

Florida Wolfey
03-07-2006, 12:15
I've watched that replay a few times and regardless of what the ref said I think he gave the red for the push.

I don't think the kick in the nuts was deliberate either, he has his eyes on the ball the whole time and had to put his leg down somewhere or fall over

You know the more I watch I form the same opinion about the ref. Upon watching it initially I thought the ref was right on the spot and saw what happened and was always going to take action even though he was distracted by the melee.

Today I've watched it again and I'm not so sure. It certainly does look like the referee was influenced by Rooney's push and hence the red.

The key to this however is what the ref said to Ericksson. Ericksson has quoted the ref as being sure that Rooney meant to kick the opposing player. Of course "kick" is just the word Ericksson used.

Wivey Wolf
03-07-2006, 12:19
You know the more I watch I form the same opinion about the ref. Upon watching it initially I thought the ref was right on the spot and saw what happened and was always going to take action even though he was distracted by the melee.

Today I've watched it again and I'm not so sure. It certainly does look like the referee was influenced by Rooney's push and hence the red.

The key to this however is what the ref said to Ericksson. Ericksson has quoted the ref as being sure that Rooney meant to kick the opposing player. Of course "kick" is just the word Ericksson used.

There is as ever the possibility that the ref is looking to justify his actions knowing that he has made an error.

Florida Wolfey
03-07-2006, 12:23
There is as ever the possibility that the ref is looking to justify his actions knowing that he has made an error.

Naturally there's this possibility. On the other hand he's the kind of ref that would see a push and would show a red card whilst letting a professional go without so much as a blink.

He's the same guy who sent Beckham off and IMO, that was only a yellow card offence anyway. Only he will know what he intended to do and the same can be said for Rooney.

paddingtonwolf
03-07-2006, 12:24
the Beckham tackle against Necaxa in the Maracana?

I thought straight red was probably fair enough there. It was a thigh high pre-meditated assault.

Florida Wolfey
03-07-2006, 12:28
the Beckham tackle against Necaxa in the Maracana?

I thought straight red was probably fair enough there. It was a thigh high pre-meditated assault.

No, the petulant back flip kick whilst laying on the floor against Diego Simeone in 1998 World cup.

And I'm wrong about who the ref was........;) It wasn't the same guy. He couldn't have been the referee then although I still think Kim Milton Nielsen was an argy.

Deutsch Wolf
03-07-2006, 12:28
That was Kim Milton Nielsen.

paddingtonwolf
03-07-2006, 12:29
ah - that wasn't reffed by Elizondo - the Maracana one was, so I thought you meant that one. My mistake. The 1998 one was a joke of a red card. Yellow tops.

Florida Wolfey
03-07-2006, 12:31
That was Kim Milton Nielsen.

Yes, I realised my mistake.......confused......I will be. :)

Any news on the Hoddle meeting yet?

paddingtonwolf
03-07-2006, 12:32
not happening today as GH has personal commitments. Ever feel like you are being strung along?

Florida Wolfey
03-07-2006, 12:34
not happening today as GH has personal commitments. Ever feel like you are being strung along?
You cannot be serious?

paddingtonwolf
03-07-2006, 12:35
I kid ye not.

Florida Wolfey
03-07-2006, 12:38
I kid ye not.\

I don't believe this....

paddingtonwolf
03-07-2006, 12:39
this is why I keep smashing my head against the monitor in frustration. Just when you thought things might be looking up we manage to completely $$$$ up a straight forward resignation.

EasternWolf
03-07-2006, 12:40
So its ok for Rooney to stamp on someone's balls? If it had been a mistake he would have apologised to the guy. I cant believe you are defending him.

markb
03-07-2006, 12:42
What exactly was "boorish" about his behaviour? The "stamp" was unintentional and the ref was not going to take any further action. The "push" was hardly worthy of the description, let alone a red card.If the stamp was deliberate he deserves to be arrested. Pushing other players around needlessly is childish behaviour that he should have grown out of. The England team had a presentation from FIFA prior to this game explaining what was and what was not acceptable. He had been told, yet still be went ahead, presumably because he's used to getting away with such behaviour. That's boorish. Understand?

Florida Wolfey
03-07-2006, 12:43
So its ok for Rooney to stamp on someone's balls? If it had been a mistake he would have apologised to the guy. I cant believe you are defending him.

And now Rooney wants revenge. Remarkable.

Wivey Wolf
03-07-2006, 12:43
Had Rooney stamped on someone's balls he (the owner of said testicles) wouldn't have taken any further part in the tournament, let alone the match. No contact, no intent, no apology.

paddingtonwolf
03-07-2006, 12:44
straight red would have been 3 matches anyway, iirc.

loopy lupine
03-07-2006, 12:53
its the way he twists his foot after he registers that it doesn't feel like turf but more like ball bag that is a little damning.

Do you think that if Rooney had made contact with mentioned body part and indeed twisted his studs/blades into him that the Portugese player would've been able to stand up again and play football after that?!?!

I reckon that's gotta hurt alot more than a ruptured achillies!!

Florida Wolfey
03-07-2006, 12:54
Do you think that if Rooney had made contact with mentioned body part and indeed twisted his studs/blades into him that the Portugese player would've been able to stand up again and play football after that?!?!

I reckon that's gotta hurt alot more than a ruptured achillies!!

There you go again.....assuming the Portuguese have any balls. ;)

EasternWolf
03-07-2006, 14:24
Had Rooney stamped on someone's balls he (the owner of said testicles) wouldn't have taken any further part in the tournament, let alone the match. No contact, no intent, no apology.

Wivey ..I am shocked that a man of your intellect does not know of the Vasco Da Gama patent balls guard as worn by the entire Portugese team since 1952 ...

Wivey Wolf
03-07-2006, 14:35
Wivey ..I am shocked that a man of your intellect does not know of the Vasco Da Gama patent balls guard as worn by the entire Portugese team since 1952 ...

Seeing how quickly the "victim" got up on Saturday, I can fully believe you it.

EasternWolf
03-07-2006, 14:49
Wivey ..have you never heard of getting back on your bike straight aw....oh no in this instance it is too painful to imagine

wolf of sedgley
03-07-2006, 14:49
Has the ref actually finished writing his match report yet? Won't that tell us what he sent him off for? The push? The "stamp"?

Wivey Wolf
03-07-2006, 14:51
Wivey ..have you never heard of getting back on your bike straight aw....oh no in this instance it is too painful to imagine

Cyclists have those special padded shorts and gel saddles. Plus they're all so drugged up so as not to notice (allegedley).

Deutsch Wolf
03-07-2006, 15:01
Has the ref actually finished writing his match report yet? Won't that tell us what he sent him off for? The push? The "stamp"?

He'll have looked at the tape a thousand times, have decided that the only reason he could have been sent off was if the stamp was deliberate, and then write that that was the offence, and he was going to send him off anyway. It's not the truth, but it's what he'll do.

wolf of sedgley
03-07-2006, 15:03
He'll have looked at the tape a thousand times, have decided that the only reason he could have been sent off was if the stamp was deliberate, and then write that that was the offence, and he was going to send him off anyway. It's not the truth, but it's what he'll do.
Thats what i thought as well. He'll read whats been said in the media and think "oops, better say i sent him off for the stamp although i actually sent him off for a slight push on that greasy rentboy $$$$$$$$."

Oldgold Wolfcub
03-07-2006, 15:11
Thats what i thought as well. He'll read whats been said in the media and think "oops, better say i sent him off for the stamp although i actually sent him off for a slight push on that greasy rentboy $$$$$$$$."
Whether its a right or wrong decision the referee should have to say at the time what the offence is. Also the fourth official could be involved which could then give the ref a chance to have second thoughts. In this case Unsportugal could cheat their way to the final and is this really what football wants.

wolf of sedgley
03-07-2006, 15:31
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/world_cup_2006/5141510.stm

He added: "The things that have been said regarding me and my team-mate and friend Rooney are incredible.



"He wished me the best of luck in the World Cup. He told me we had a great team and that if we continued to play like this, we would go far.


Yes Ronaldo. I'm sure he told you to cheat your way to victory.

Kenny-11
03-07-2006, 15:34
Ronaldo, who scored the winning penalty in the dramatic shoot-out, also says he has no intention of leaving Manchester United, despite being linked with a move to Real Madrid.


Nothing to do with the fact that the new President at Real Madrid is not the one that he had the agreement with then.......

paddingtonwolf
03-07-2006, 15:34
Seeing as any lip reader could see "eh, what the $$$$$ eh, oh $$$$$ right off you $$$$$ing $$$$$$$" I wouldn't advise any portuguese booking up with Ronaldo's english coach.

wolf of sedgley
03-07-2006, 15:37
i just don't believe Rooney will let him get away with it. I know i wouldn't.

Reverend V
03-07-2006, 19:01
Do you think that if Rooney had made contact with mentioned body part and indeed twisted his studs/blades into him that the Portugese player would've been able to stand up again and play football after that?!?!

I reckon that's gotta hurt alot more than a ruptured achillies!!

If as suggested, players wear air-bags over their jewels..is it strictly a kick "straight to the goolies"? I'd recommend this Ronaldo wears some big bags in future..

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/michael.fraser1/TRBv2/awards/a-gfx/viz01.gif

http://www.damagepreventioncompany.com/images/airbag1.jpg

;)

Reverend V
03-07-2006, 19:09
Wasn't the ref was seen on the beach before the world cup as well..

http://www.greenland4u.dk/video/4/beach1.mpeg

Hatch End Wolf
03-07-2006, 19:36
I've heard that Hoddle's Wife is a Wolves fan and has threatened to divorce him if he doesn't go back to the Mox and beg him for his job back!

Deutsch Wolf
03-07-2006, 19:43
I've heard that Hoddle's Wife is a Wolves fan and has threatened to divorce him if he doesn't go back to the Mox and beg him for his job back!

What?

lon chaney jr
03-07-2006, 23:13
The ref didn't appear to be taking any further action up until Roony used the one inch punch on Ronaldo. Plus, as has been discussed, only Iron Balls McGinty would have been able to get up after a stomp and grind. Play should have stopped for the foul on Rooney seconds previously anyway.

Would it have made a difference? Who knows. Ronaldo is still a prize pillock.

Oldgold Wolfcub
03-07-2006, 23:28
I've heard that Hoddle's Wife is a Wolves fan and has threatened to divorce him if he doesn't go back to the Mox and beg him for his job back!
Does Hoddle know her?

lon chaney jr
03-07-2006, 23:30
Having just watched the stomp repeatedly, it's quite difficult to say whether there is intent or not (for me anyway). However, I'm leaning toward there being intent. He is fully aware of where the player is, there doesn't seem to be any sense in where he puts his foot- it doesn't seem to be for balance or to control the ball, and his foot seems to go in and out quickly (although that could just be as he realises where he's trodden). I don't want him to have done it on purpose, as if he did, it's despicable. And Ronaldo is still a scumbag regardless of intent.

Reverend V
04-07-2006, 01:16
Trouble is, what can be done now? I'd love to see a rematch but somehow I doubt it's gonna happen :(

It's so sad to see England get stopped here, right now, when IMO we had a good fighting chance; despite team selection problems, several men down, high temps and against a team that loves to dramatise, we managed to defend right through until the very end.

Rooney should just get straight back on the pitch and continue what he's good at..kicking balls, as opposed to getting caught up in the media mayhem..IMO he should be proud of the fact that as a team we got this far. The media seems only too eager to make the news instead of report on it, and shoot everyone down instead of celebrating what they have achieved.

Reverend V
04-07-2006, 04:41
YouTube is currently hosting some Ronaldo content:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyqmH1RQlYs&search=ronaldo%20cheat

It seems to be attracting a lot of comment.

http://www.geocities.com/lukerzxiii/rooneyredcard.html


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