Leicester lose appeal against points deduction

Least it’s all be decided before the end of the season though .

It’s embarrassing for them they are even having to think about relegation.
 
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Publish the penalties in advance . Then teams know the risk of rule breaking?

I still think there should be a salary cap and that’s a number not a percentage . Take the average income of the previous season and multiply it by 70%. That’s what you’re allowed to spend on salaries , for every club for your squad and staff . Apply that to all the teams .

Teams may go for two or three mega earners and then fill the squad with medium .

Or teams could have 6-7 good earners and fill the rest if the squad with medium earners.

You would get rid of the players here for a quick payday .You would make the league fairer .
 
I've zero interest in Leicester really, no skin in the game with them at all, but it is objectively going to be a shame that the tenth anniversary of winning the Prem is going to be tarnished by a seemingly now inevitable relegation, failing to beat Sheff Wed at the weekend seemed quite damning.
 
Bryce said:
Publish the penalties in advance . Then teams know the risk of rule breaking?

I still think there should be a salary cap and that’s a number not a percentage . Take the average income of the previous season and multiply it by 70%. That’s what you’re allowed to spend on salaries , for every club for your squad and staff . Apply that to all the teams .

Teams may go for two or three mega earners and then fill the squad with medium .

Or teams could have 6-7 good earners and fill the rest if the squad with medium earners.

You would get rid of the players here for a quick payday .You would make the league fairer .
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You'd make the leagues (plural) massively lower quality.
 
WolvesAreBoringOnCeefax said:
I've zero interest in Leicester really, no skin in the game with them at all, but it is objectively going to be a shame that the tenth anniversary of winning the Prem is going to be tarnished by a seemingly now inevitable relegation, failing to beat Sheff Wed at the weekend seemed quite damning.
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My sympathy is limited by their having shafted multiple local small businesses by going into administration after building what was then the Walkers Stadium and thus keeping their whole team.
 
WickedWolfie said:
My sympathy is limited by their having shafted multiple local small businesses by going into administration after building what was then the Walkers Stadium and thus keeping their whole team.
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Yes I think it was because of Leicester, they introduced the rules about points deductions upon entering administration
 
WickedWolfie said:
You'd make the leagues (plural) massively lower quality.
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Why?

I don’t think that would happen as those who were here for the payday would try elsewhere for money

Think of cities bench . Under my proposal they could be top earners or high earners at another club rather than bench warming

If we had Foden and Trafford for example they would walk into our first 11

The big six have bought players not to play . That has already reduced the quality on view. My fairer idea levels the playing field a bit and encourages players to stay as top earners at say palace and Brentford rather than bench warming at a big six

Just look at the wages being paid to bench warmers by clubs with dubious financial track records
 
Bryce said:
Publish the penalties in advance . Then teams know the risk of rule breaking?

I still think there should be a salary cap and that’s a number not a percentage . Take the average income of the previous season and multiply it by 70%. That’s what you’re allowed to spend on salaries , for every club for your squad and staff . Apply that to all the teams .

Teams may go for two or three mega earners and then fill the squad with medium .

Or teams could have 6-7 good earners and fill the rest if the squad with medium earners.

You would get rid of the players here for a quick payday .You would make the league fairer .
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It’d end up like the MLS though where you have two top earners (and top players!) with the rest being League One
 
Bryce said:
Why?

I don’t think that would happen as those who were here for the payday would try elsewhere for money

Think of cities bench . Under my proposal they could be top earners or high earners at another club rather than bench warming

If we had Foden and Trafford for example they would walk into our first 11

The big six have bought players not to play . That has already reduced the quality on view. My fairer idea levels the playing field a bit and encourages players to stay as top earners at say palace and Brentford rather than bench warming at a big six

Just look at the wages being paid to bench warmers by clubs with dubious financial track records
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Elsewhere would likely be in Spain, Italy or other big leagues though - just look at the rugby union precedent.
 
WickedWolfie said:
My sympathy is limited by their having shafted multiple local small businesses by going into administration after building what was then the Walkers Stadium and thus keeping their whole team.
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And they shouldn't be worrying about relegation with the squad Leicester have.

The 6 points lost ought to mean they aren't going to get auto promotion - not be relegated.
 
No sympathy from me. Never liked them since the Steve Walsh / Steve Bull fights. I hope Albion go down, and if they dont then I hope its Leicester. Would be amazing if they both went down.
 
Bryce said:
Publish the penalties in advance . Then teams know the risk of rule breaking?

I still think there should be a salary cap and that’s a number not a percentage . Take the average income of the previous season and multiply it by 70%. That’s what you’re allowed to spend on salaries , for every club for your squad and staff . Apply that to all the teams .

Teams may go for two or three mega earners and then fill the squad with medium .

Or teams could have 6-7 good earners and fill the rest if the squad with medium earners.

You would get rid of the players here for a quick payday .You would make the league fairer .
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Maybe if we just reduced the squad instead of salary caps.
Maybe 20 player in a squad and only 2 subs…..( 20 is an arbitrary number).

Then a rich club can have 100 players on their payroll for all I care but only 20 can play.

Smaller squads will help distribute quality players throughout the league and thus be in. A better position to challenge rich clubs for silverware.
 
Couldn’t care less about Lestar. It’s not like it’s their first offence.
I’ve disliked them since the days of Lineker, lynex, Wilson and Smith, they always seemed to score against us, and in later years, players such as Walsh, Izzett, Claridge, Vardy.
Let them rot in league 1.
 
Longford Wolf said:
Couldn’t care less about Lestar. It’s not like it’s their first offence.
I’ve disliked them since the days of Lineker, lynex, Wilson and Smith, they always seemed to score against us, and in later years, players such as Walsh, Izzett, Claridge, Vardy.
Let them rot in league 1.
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Couldnt agree more. They always seemed to put 5 past us in the early 80s.
 
I find a lot of these posts amusing. Because a team has put 5 past us once upon a time they apparently deserve to be hated and go down. Get a life. Your stock rises, your stock falls. That's football and that's life.
 
Macman said:
No sympathy from me. Never liked them since the Steve Walsh / Steve Bull fights. I hope Albion go down, and if they dont then I hope its Leicester. Would be amazing if they both went down.
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Bully dished it out as much as Walsh did, or at least that's how I saw it.
Personally, I can think of worse reasons not to like a club but if that's how you feel fair play.
 
Golden Arrow said:
Bully dished it out as much as Walsh did, or at least that's how I saw it.
Personally, I can think of worse reasons not to like a club but if that's how you feel fair play.
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I just laugh at how people can find some silly reason to 'hate' any club, but to be fair to Bully I don't think he ever started out anything but tough but fair, Walsh used to try to get under his skin and sometimes succeeded, you had to stand up for yourself in those days.
 
SteveBullsKnee said:
It’d end up like the MLS though where you have two top earners (and top players!) with the rest being League One
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Like us then now lol:laughing::laughing:

If you make the premier league about money ( it is) then those with the ability to pay the most get the players even if they aren’t playing ( Chelsea’s bomb squad for instance last season)

If you cap the total playing salary you can legitimately add bonuses for wins or goals scored or clean sheets to make success even more attractive ( performance related)

Let’s face it, we haven’t been anything like a good watch this season and yet we haven’t paid about 75% of our turnover in wages . And look what we get in the league? The ones with the money and dubious financial records winning or making Europe , Forest and spurs spending loads without success, palace losing their best players and the brilliantly run Brighton and Brentford still likely to miss out on Europe to Chelsea Villa and City who have been very “ creative” with their finances .

We aren’t an attractive place to play but we were and we could have continued to do that but the tap was turned off when we would not pay the rate required .

To level the playing field a total salary cap ensures club survival , encourages investment in infrastructure like stadiums, means the best players come to play not bench warm, stops a big six monopoly and makes for a more competitive league.

After 30 odd years the current model only suits a few teams and that cannot be good for football in the long term .
 
If this is the wrong place for this, then my apologies.

Believe me that while Bully and Walsh may have been sworn enemies on the pitch, they became quite good friends off it as their careers ended. I got the information from a former Leicester City player who said that it was rubbish to say that Bully and Walsh hated each other. On the pitch they were both desperate to win and given their positions on the pitch they often came into contact. While Walsh was no shrinking violet, neither was Bully. They both gave it everything for their teams, but there was mutual respect between them.
 
Frank Lincoln said:
If this is the wrong place for this, then my apologies.

Believe me that while Bully and Walsh may have been sworn enemies on the pitch, they became quite good friends off it as their careers ended. I got the information from a former Leicester City player who said that it was rubbish to say that Bully and Walsh hated each other. On the pitch they were both desperate to win and given their positions on the pitch they often came into contact. While Walsh was no shrinking violet, neither was Bully. They both gave it everything for their teams, but there was mutual respect between them.
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Yep quite agree Frank, Walsh was one of the few centre halves around at the time that had any sort of strategy of trying to deal with Bully- with mixed success; most CH’s just couldn’t cope with our goal machine. Their battles in the 90s were part of the entertainment.
 
What about City........ FFS
Why can't people still understand why its takes longer to get to the end of this, City are contesting each and every single charge with some of the best lawyers money can buy v a small/medium sized club on a single charge.

Looking at how much the Premier League have spent on legal fees over the last few years, i can see them bucking and City getting a smacked wrist of a 5 year transfer ban for their u12's to show they tried.
 
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What about City........ FFS
Why can't people still understand why its takes longer to get to the end of this, City are contesting each and every single charge with some of the best lawyers money can buy v a small/medium sized club on a single charge.

Looking at how much the Premier League have spent on legal fees over the last few years, i can see them bucking and City getting a smacked wrist of a 5 year transfer ban for their u12's to show they tried.
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Whilst I understand this, what is completely beyond me is that the burden of proof is not beyond reasonable doubt like criminal law but on the balance of probabilities. Surely with 115 charges there are a number of on the balance of probability would be upheld? Why not go for those first? Meanwhile cheats prosper with another trophy in the cabinet
 
Slightly OT but I never really hated Walshy, it always looked a good contest (although when bully got KOd I may not have shared that view)

I did hate Craig Short who seemed to spend most of the game raking his studs down Bullys calfs.

I do think Leicester are being unfairly picked on, especially when you look at how other clubs are being 'dealt' with.

We've had some good games against them over the years and despite choosing the worst possible year to work in Leicester, they're a decent bunch of fans
 
Frank Lincoln said:
If this is the wrong place for this, then my apologies.

Believe me that while Bully and Walsh may have been sworn enemies on the pitch, they became quite good friends off it as their careers ended. I got the information from a former Leicester City player who said that it was rubbish to say that Bully and Walsh hated each other. On the pitch they were both desperate to win and given their positions on the pitch they often came into contact. While Walsh was no shrinking violet, neither was Bully. They both gave it everything for their teams, but there was mutual respect between them.
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They meet up from time to time. That can be seen on Bully's Instagram page. They're really good friends.
 
jackdusty said:
What about City........ FFS
Why can't people still understand why its takes longer to get to the end of this, City are contesting each and every single charge with some of the best lawyers money can buy v a small/medium sized club on a single charge.

Looking at how much the Premier League have spent on legal fees over the last few years, i can see them bucking and City getting a smacked wrist of a 5 year transfer ban for their u12's to show they tried.
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Or a 12 point deduction once Arsenal win the league and a 12 month transfer ban which barely touches them such is the size of the squad. Whatever happens it’ll never be a punishment that really hurts like stripping them of all the titles won in that era, or a lengthy European ban
 
SingYourHeartsOut said:
Maybe we should have a thread on 'is there an English league team nobody hates'?
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I can remember when football ( and indeed life was not so tribal ) and there were certain teams that unless you were their local rivals most fans had no grudge with. Southampton were one in the seventies when they had Lawrie McMenemy as Boss, along with some star players and The Dell. I would put Ipswich under Sir Bobby Robson in there , when he had Arnold Muhren, Frans Thijssen, Paul Mariner and Eric Gates. Although I dare say their are some on here who would disagree with me because they lost the title to Villa back in 1980/81 ! I think London wise QPR were another that unless you were a local rival people had no truck with.
 
Norman Bell said:
I can remember when football ( and indeed life was not so tribal ) and there were certain teams that unless you were their local rivals most fans had no grudge with. Southampton were one in the seventies when they had Lawrie McMenemy as Boss, along with some star players and The Dell. I would put Ipswich under Sir Bobby Robson in there , when he had Arnold Muhren, Frans Thijssen, Paul Mariner and Eric Gates. Although I dare say their are some on here who would disagree with me because they lost the title to Villa back in 1980/81 ! I think London wise QPR were another that unless you were a local rival people had no truck with.
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i think football is more tribal definitely but i dont think life is more tribal..

My Dad for instance has no particular fooball hatred unlike me and my generation...He thinks we are all puddled even with our hatred of Albion..because he was brought up with it just being football..

But with anything outside of football, politics, race , religion or anything he is the polar opposite of me...ive got no problem with anybody else in that respect..We have all had different experiences i suppose...Dont start me Dad on Scoucers, Unions or Labour for instance, whereas i think they everyone to thier own..
 
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Norman Bell said:
I can remember when football ( and indeed life was not so tribal ) and there were certain teams that unless you were their local rivals most fans had no grudge with. Southampton were one in the seventies when they had Lawrie McMenemy as Boss, along with some star players and The Dell. I would put Ipswich under Sir Bobby Robson in there , when he had Arnold Muhren, Frans Thijssen, Paul Mariner and Eric Gates. Although I dare say there are some on here who would disagree with me because they lost the title to Villa back in 1980/81 ! I think London wise QPR were another that unless you were a local rival people had no truck with.
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I don’t hate them but I’ve never forgiven them for letting Villa win the title and giving them the opportunity to win the European cup :triumph::tearsofjoy:.
 
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