Complete Summer Rebuild….over to you.

Northampton_wolf said:
No but genuinely tavernier feels or leans into this thought that Rob and his backroom and Jackson want to have more experience leadership and home grown options in squad
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He isnt good enough so why sign him ?
 
Bugsy911 said:
He isnt good enough so why sign him ?
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I fear you may be very disappointed at the majority of signings who we make this season .
No one in our premier league team has the throw set piece or pen conversion that Tavernier does. To say he may not be good enough is fair. He lacks pace . But he brings far more to the table than our current 12m failing RB who has all the pace and pretty much nothing else.

If we were still in the premier league I understand your doubts. But as a free transfer average wage experienced HG squad member ? It’s well worth a punt
 
wolfslair said:
But sadly we never had the right recruitment done to replace Raul or even support him with a a second choice.
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That's the thing with Jimenez, he was an absolutely top level international who was able to fit seamlessly into a decent football team and make them better. He scored top level goals against top level defenders from top clubs.
For clubs like Wolves they're once in a lifetime, you can clearly see daylight between him and every other central striker we've bought...technique, movement, intelligence, understanding, finishing in the air or on the ground....for a bloke who wasn't super quick.
Stick him in the Championship and he might not stand out in that mess, he needed to be in a good team to show he could cope easily.
 
Our biggest problem has been in key areas. To play our style, even in the championship our wing backs aren’t good enough and our midfield doesn’t create or score enough. Our strikers don’t convert enough and both keepers can’t distribute effectively to match playing out from the back .
So , even if we kept everyone we would still need 3 or 4 quality additions to meet the shortfall, that’s how poor last year’s recruitment was.
Given that we also have Djiga returning, Tavernier alongside also makes sense.

Ideally go to a back four and give Moller-Wolfe a birth if he stays
They pray one of Andre or Joao stays .Beil as DM cover for suspensions is fine at that level .
Ballard from Orient would be a good addition if we keep Tolu and Armstrong. If we lose Tolu another CF is needed.

Sa and Johnstone are both bottom five prem keepers . So getting another who can pass and distribute as well as make saves and command the box would be essential. A giant would be even better. HG would be good but not essential. An excellent addition keeper is worth 10 points.
Midfield creativity from James would be ace and get Hamer as cover .Keep Mane if possible .

Sell one of Joao or Andre, flip Krejci , sell Santi , Hwang, Munetsi Mosquera,that’s close to 120m

Noppert (1m)
Tavernier(free) Djiga Toti Wolfe
Andre
Rodrigo James (20)m Mane
Armstrong
Tolu

Bentley
Neil ( free)
Adams ( 8m)
Ballard (8m)
Edozie
Doyle
Lima
Hugo
Bellegarde
Traore
Hamer (5m)
New CH Kilman on loan? Or Lawal from stoke?

8 HG there . 60m surplus on fees. Enough for some Mendes specials to spice up the batch . It’s a top half squad, minimum. Even with Rob’s limitations it would be hard not to get a tune out of that squad .

It’s doable but we need to act and act asap. No ****ing tyre kicking .
 
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Lupo said:
Teflon Matt whispering in gus ear, the Cosy Club is back after 10 years
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Yep I'm expecting Tony Daley to rock up with his physio bag any day now.
To be honest from what I see of the coaching staff , the long haired Yank kit guy seems to be the one in charge!
 
BlahBlah said:
That's the thing with Jimenez, he was an absolutely top level international who was able to fit seamlessly into a decent football team and make them better. He scored top level goals against top level defenders from top clubs.
For clubs like Wolves they're once in a lifetime, you can clearly see daylight between him and every other central striker we've bought...technique, movement, intelligence, understanding, finishing in the air or on the ground....for a bloke who wasn't super quick.
Stick him in the Championship and he might not stand out in that mess, he needed to be in a good team to show he could cope easily.
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Closest must be Cunha who once settled had a purple patch with us until he wanted to leave.
 
BlahBlah said:
That's the thing with Jimenez, he was an absolutely top level international who was able to fit seamlessly into a decent football team and make them better. He scored top level goals against top level defenders from top clubs.
For clubs like Wolves they're once in a lifetime, you can clearly see daylight between him and every other central striker we've bought...technique, movement, intelligence, understanding, finishing in the air or on the ground....for a bloke who wasn't super quick.
Stick him in the Championship and he might not stand out in that mess, he needed to be in a good team to show he could cope easily.
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Agree with you re; Jimenez. Nuno saw what he needed and we got him.

I do think it's incorrect to say he was 'once in a lifetime', though. In my lifetime I've seen Dougan, Richards, Bull, Ebanks-Blake. They were the right players at the right time and just because they never got to play in the Prem doesn't mean they couldn't (although E-B did get a chance). Other posters on here will also have seen Broadbent, Hancocks, Wilshaw, Murray etc...
Raul was good, but not unique among Wolves' strikers.
 
Northampton_wolf said:
Seeing multiple pieces on edwards deserve time etc

www.thetimes.com

Rob Edwards embraced impossible job at Wolves — he deserves patience, not vitriol

There was a time when clubs and their fans rallied around coaches after going down, but nobody gets away with even the thought of relegation any more
www.thetimes.com www.thetimes.com
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The media team are feeding their press mates well.

It's an interesting strategy and trying to control the story is almost admirable.

But it's gaslighting the fans all the same and trying to drown out the social media noise.

The club are about to find out that the media isn't the Chinese media and the fans are not as pliable as they think.
 
Rubberball said:
The media team are feeding their press mates well.

It's an interesting strategy and trying to control the story is almost admirable.

But it's gaslighting the fans all the same and trying to drown out the social media noise.

The club are about to find out that the media isn't the Chinese media and the fans are not as pliable as they think.
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Well it has the opposite effect here. The more nonsense like this I read, the more I want him gone...
 
Northampton_wolf said:
Seeing multiple pieces on edwards deserve time etc

www.thetimes.com

Rob Edwards embraced impossible job at Wolves — he deserves patience, not vitriol

There was a time when clubs and their fans rallied around coaches after going down, but nobody gets away with even the thought of relegation any more
www.thetimes.com www.thetimes.com
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Heavily biased piece focusing largely on the Sunderland match and ignoring the fact that
(a) our football under Edwards has been lamentable and
(b) when he took the job it was essential we started to win some matches, instead of which we have been subjected to a non-stop stream of park-the-bus performances which haven't even delivered draws.

The statistics on the number of managers used (not just by us) shows what a distorting effect the PL has had on football in England.
 
Northampton_wolf said:
Seeing multiple pieces on edwards deserve time etc

www.thetimes.com

Rob Edwards embraced impossible job at Wolves — he deserves patience, not vitriol

There was a time when clubs and their fans rallied around coaches after going down, but nobody gets away with even the thought of relegation any more
www.thetimes.com www.thetimes.com
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The club PR machine churning out its usual crap. How many of the clowns writing that BS would pay their hard-earned to watch Boring Rob's anti-football dross?

I can only speak for myself when l say that the more that they double down on keeping the poor man's GON the more that l do the same on keeping my cash in my bank account.

When the ST renewal figures come in the lying leech's apparent puppet will see the consequences of his arrogant stupidity.
 
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SA Wolf said:
Agree with you re; Jimenez. Nuno saw what he needed and we got him.

I do think it's incorrect to say he was 'once in a lifetime', though. In my lifetime I've seen Dougan, Richards, Bull, Ebanks-Blake. They were the right players at the right time and just because they never got to play in the Prem doesn't mean they couldn't (although E-B did get a chance). Other posters on here will also have seen Broadbent, Hancocks, Wilshaw, Murray etc...
Raul was good, but not unique among Wolves' strikers.
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But that's exactly what does make him unique, the others didn't match his record. He was in the Prem and he's got 123 full international caps. We've had our local heroes, but never had a forward with that record or international recognition.
 
BlahBlah said:
But that's exactly what does make him unique, the others didn't match his record. He was in the Prem and he's got 123 full international caps. We've had our local heroes, but never had a forward with that record or international recognition.
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Raul is/was an extremely good player but he’s also the most fearless and hardest trier i have ever seen in football. It cost him his n the end.

Raul was certainly a generational talent for us. It’s a shame that we will never see such a good striker play for us again.
 
Northampton_wolf said:
Seeing multiple pieces on edwards deserve time etc

www.thetimes.com

Rob Edwards embraced impossible job at Wolves — he deserves patience, not vitriol

There was a time when clubs and their fans rallied around coaches after going down, but nobody gets away with even the thought of relegation any more
www.thetimes.com www.thetimes.com
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His birth certificate ensures the press won't criticise him. Same with Howe and GON before, if he was foreign born they'd be calling for his head and telling us how bad an appointment it was.
 
Everybody will be saying what a bad appointment it was and call for his head in october.
 
fleck1 said:
His birth certificate ensures the press won't criticise him. Same with Howe and GON before, if he was foreign born they'd be calling for his head and telling us how bad an appointment it was.
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He’s going nowhere unfortunately
 
yateleywolf said:
Top off my head Leo Shahar Newcastle . Ayman to Liverpool . Brayden Clarke to Arsenal.
Shahar been with us as a kid made it worst.
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Again im not really up on our youngsters but wasnt Ayman from Bradfords academy?
I remember his move to Liverpool but was only here for about a year
The other 2 are good prospects but doubt they would have been used much if at all this season
Im sure there are other we have moved on in the last 7/8 years but i cant think of anyone bar MGW thats come through the academy and shone
Killman did i know but we played him and made a profit so dont count that as a lost soul lol
 
Northampton_wolf said:
Seeing multiple pieces on edwards deserve time etc

www.thetimes.com

Rob Edwards embraced impossible job at Wolves — he deserves patience, not vitriol

There was a time when clubs and their fans rallied around coaches after going down, but nobody gets away with even the thought of relegation any more
www.thetimes.com www.thetimes.com
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British media trying to make a British coach look good, he could get us relegated this season and they'd still make out he's been hard done by.

British media are so desperate for a English coach to do well, when in reality they're all ****ing crap
 
Bryce said:
The name Molineux is of French origin and comes from De Moulin so sheep or mill. Hence are performances have been like headless sheep and results worse than run of the mill. We really set a low Baaa
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They've very much been sheep in Wolves' clothing this season...
 
Lichfieldroadwolf said:
Told by someone who works with team today that they (whole squad and coaches) were sat down by the hierarchy and told mistakes have been made and everything will be done to ensure we go straight back up. Spending big if needs be. Rob safe in his job for the foreseeable.
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"Mistakes have been made, lads. Unrelated to that, we're keeping a manager who thinks sticking ten men behind the ball and punting it up to a 5'8" lone forward is the way to go".
 
Not getting in Birminghams team half the time is hardly a ringing endorsement for him but Doyle could be useful depending on how he's used and who plays with him. He can pick a pass but he's lightweight and not very athletic or mobile. He would only be good starting for a team looking at the top end of the Championship, in a 3 with midfielders next to him who can cover a lot of ground. If he fits the system then fine, if not then squad player at best.
 
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