JohnB
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Well said and agree completely.This is the thing. The only way we should be selling is if we have a deal for a better player (i.e. Ramos) already agreed.
If we don’t, then we simply don’t sell MGW as we don’t have any quality cover or competition in his position. In fact, I’d argue that as it stands, with the exception of right-back when Semedo is fit, we don’t have any real strength in depth in any position.
Seems relatively simple to me and I’ve always historically supported the Club around our dealings. But the decisions around Traore and Fabio have left me concerned that we may not have all our ducks in a row here.
No embarrassing because he went to a lesser team/club.embarrassing because he went on to have such a great career? We sold him for his highest ever value
Wolves have never engaged in the media shenanigans since Fosun took over. So I wouldn’t expect them to say anything anyway. They are not obliged to. Unfortunately you are correct and then that speculation goes into overdrive.The fact we keep rejecting bids means it’s not a done deal.
On the one side, we don’t need to sell, he’s seemed to enjoy pre season and he’s an important part of the team for this year, so I’d say he’s not going anywhere bar a crazy bid we can’t turn down (£40-50m)
On the other side it’s weird that we’ve not come out and definitively said he’s not leaving, and that leaves this space for speculation.
Personally I hope he stays, I’m looking forward to seeing him as part of our new attacking 4 at the back lineup.
Bang on. If we play 433 at the moment the only place where there is genuine competition is at right back when Semedo is back. The next most competitive place is Sa vs Sarkic.This is the thing. The only way we should be selling is if we have a deal for a better player (i.e. Ramos) already agreed.
If we don’t, then we simply don’t sell MGW as we don’t have any quality cover or competition in his position. In fact, I’d argue that as it stands, with the exception of right-back when Semedo is fit, we don’t have any real strength in depth in any position.
Seems relatively simple to me and I’ve always historically supported the Club around our dealings. But the decisions around Traore and Fabio have left me concerned that we may not have all our ducks in a row here.
This is the thing. The only way we should be selling is if we have a deal for a better player (i.e. Ramos) already agreed.
If we don’t, then we simply don’t sell MGW as we don’t have any quality cover or competition in his position. In fact, I’d argue that as it stands, with the exception of right-back when Semedo is fit, we don’t have any real strength in depth in any position.
Seems relatively simple to me and I’ve always historically supported the Club around our dealings. But the decisions around Traore and Fabio have left me concerned that we may not have all our ducks in a row here.
Does anybody think we will use the money at all?Does anybody think we will use the money correctly, should we sell?
What a petulant, pant ****ing, pathetic rant. Absolute peak idiocy.It's awful from Wolves but also **** MGW.
All that **** all summer about how he just wanted to play football, now he's joining a club that are at best a sidewards move but, more to the point, one where he might not play! In fact, he will find it much harder to get in Forest's side with Brennan Johnson & Jesse Lingard than he will here.
So, as we should've always known, it was about the money.
You're going to look like such a moron this time next year, irrespective of where he is playingWe're on 35 million now? And 35 million is only decent???
35 million is absolute daylight robbery! This could be deal of the century!
Says it all really. Next competive place is Sa v Sarkic. No contest.Bang on. If we play 433 at the moment the only place where there is genuine competition is at right back when Semedo is back. The next most competitive place is Sa vs Sarkic.
If you change system completely then you have to sodding well make sure you give the manager a squad capable of playing in it. He couldn’t do it last season and we’ve added a CB since, it’s not good enough unless we sign another 3 or 4 players before the window.
I hope the black tie signifies a formal social gathering - and not the state of discussions for Wolves latest would-be purchase?
Trouble is only one of those is anywhere near being a regular goal scorer. Bruno said it when he first took the job and has re-emphasised it several times since: there’s not enough goals in the team. Whether his decision to go with a four at the back changes that we will soon find out.Assuming we bring in a central midfielder and a striker (I know, but the club have said they are trying).
I think Gibbs-White’s place in the squad then comes down to Traore.
I don’t think Bruno sees MGW as a midfield option, even in a 3. He’s perhaps too forward thinking. He’s been almost exclusively used as a right sided attacker in pre-season.
It looks like 433 is the preference, so 3 spots for forward players.
When all fit, it’s likely we have….
Jimenez, Neto, Podence and Hwang, plus a new striker, plus one of Traore or Gibbs-White.
6 for 3 positions is a lot. 7 would be far too much.
Out of all those, Jimenez, Neto, Traore would probably be the preferred 3 if Traore stays. It would probably be Jimenez, Neto, Podence if Traore leaves.
So take the short-term out of the equation and Gibbs-White has a lot to do to force his way in as a starter here when everyone is fit. That’s even before anyone new comes along.
And no one knows what Traore wants either!!!
Assuming we bring in a central midfielder and a striker (I know, but the club have said they are trying).
I think Gibbs-White’s place in the squad then comes down to Traore.
I don’t think Bruno sees MGW as a midfield option, even in a 3. He’s perhaps too forward thinking. He’s been almost exclusively used as a right sided attacker in pre-season.
It looks like 433 is the preference, so 3 spots for forward players.
When all fit, it’s likely we have….
Jimenez, Neto, Podence and Hwang, plus a new striker, plus one of Traore or Gibbs-White.
6 for 3 positions is a lot. 7 would be far too much.
Out of all those, Jimenez, Neto, Traore would probably be the preferred 3 if Traore stays. It would probably be Jimenez, Neto, Podence if Traore leaves.
So take the short-term out of the equation and Gibbs-White has a lot to do to force his way in as a starter here when everyone is fit. That’s even before anyone new comes along.
And no one knows what Traore wants either!!!
Don't really get why people are so obsessed with Ramos tbh. Only year younger than MGW and average numbers in a league that apart from the top teams is similar in quality to the championship.As I said at the start of the thread happy to see him stay but if we get mega money I'm easy with him going.
I don't see the messiah like adulation that our season depends on MGW. He's never been more than a bit part player for us with one good season in the the championship.
My only proviso is, if we sell we spend it immediately on player(s) we have lined up.
Ramos forMGW I would take
Lol…! Like that’s even remotely true.I got told a while back he ain't got a clue and that he is a laughing stock. No idea of how to run a sports club.
He's a 6ft1 goalscorer. Different to the plethora of tiny forwards we currently have and has played European football.Don't really get why people are so obsessed with Ramos tbh. Only year younger than MGW and average numbers in a league that apart from the top teams is similar in quality to the championship.
He has scored 7 goals in about 18 games worth of minutes last season. Hardly proven himself has he?He's a 6ft1 goalscorer. Different to the plethora of tiny forwards we currently have and has played European football.
MGW had a good game against Chelsea for us then not much.
I'd say the Portuguese league has demonstrated itself to be breeding ground for talent far in excess of whT the championship has mustered
If he scores at that ratio for Wolves we won't be moaning.He has scored 7 goals in about 18 games worth of minutes last season. Hardly proven himself has he?
We have to believe we will.but to be truthful who knows !! Jeff seem to want to destroy the squad.Does anybody think we will use the money at all?
Actually it is….. based on what I have heard this is what is said about some owners in the league by other clubs:Lol…! Like that’s even remotely true.
There aren't many players who increase their scoring rate going from Portuguese league to the Prem. I'd have him here but idea he is anywhere near £20M is fancifulIf he scores at that ratio for Wolves we won't be moaning.
One thing i know is we won't score any headers currently
Yet someone is offering 30m+ for mgw who saw that coming 12 months ago?There aren't many players who increase their scoring rate going from Portuguese league to the Prem. I'd have him here but idea he is anywhere near £20M is fanciful
What’s idiotic about it?What a petulant, pant ****ing, pathetic rant. Absolute peak idiocy.
Am I? Why, what do you think he is going to do? Break into the England setup? Play European football? Do you really think he's going to the very top? We talking good enough for the big 4?You're going to look like such a moron this time next year, irrespective of where he is playing
Forest would be mad to sign him without wanting him as a nailed on starter. Unless it's the chairman playing football manager which can't totally be ruled outside considering who he is.What’s idiotic about it?
Are Forest not a sidewards move?
Will he play ahead of Lingard & Johnson?
It was embarrassing because he would have walked in to our midfield for the next ten years.embarrassing because he went on to have such a great career? We sold him for his highest ever value
30M is only a lot because his contract expires in 2 years.
He's 22 and seems to develop fast now. In 3 years, his value will be twice that, probably being an England international and a well established PL player by then.
I understand the need to cash in, if he wouldnt renew, but otherwise it doesnt make sense. 30M is nothing compared to what he will be worth.